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February 4, 2005
Pancit Canton: mamahal na ba?
Posted at 01:48 PM

R U WITH, OR AGAINST VAT INCREASE???



VAT Bill Hits the Poor Most
Bayan Muna Rep. Joel G. Virador
27 January 2005


The terms “anti-people” and “anti-poor” policies refer to policies and actions that go against the interest of the poor majority. House Bill 3555 gives a distinct “face” to these terms in the harshest manner.

The proposed 10% to 12% increase in Value-Added Tax stands to hit the poorest of the poor since basic commodities are covered by this bill. No amount of so-called exemption of sardines, noodles, and bread nor of ‘slight increases’ in prices will hide the fact that the consumers will inevitably bear the burden of yet another round of price increases.

There is no need to increase the VAT rate because government’s poor VAT collections stem from its very failure to arrest VAT leakage. Based on figures from the National Tax Research Center, average leakage from VAT has been estimated at 29.8% annually from 1998 to 2002. This is equivalent to annual losses of about P41.6 B.

Add to this the various exemptions granted to several businesses which in 2003 alone amounted to P 195.5 B. Total amount of tax and duty exemptions in the same year amounted to P299.2 B.

As a representative of the poor and marginalized sectors and especially as a Mindanaoan, I am concerned that House Bill 3555 will further plunge Mindanao into the steepest levels of poverty. The so-called “land of promise” and “land of plenty” is not evident among the people as nearly half of the estimated 20 million population live at or below the poverty threshold.

The Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao has the highest number of poor families at 68.8 percent, followed by Region XII (50.9 percent). In August 2004, a Social Weather Station (SWS) survey revealed that Mindanao has the highest incidence of hunger at 23 percent. Poverty in Mindanao comprised 32 percent of the Philippine’s total poor population in 2000. With unemployment in the island reaching an alarming double digit rate of 10.15% in 2003, the people need this bill like a nail in the head.

Moreover, it is clear that this bill underscores government’s continued subservience to impositions of international finance institutions led by the International Monetary Fund. As early as 1999, the IMF has strongly pushed for a VAT increase as stated in its Memorandum on Economic and Financial Policies that same year.

Finally, for a measure that stands to gravely impact on the people, none of these people were ever given the chance to air their side on this bill.

Bayan Muna will not and will never be instrumental to the passage of any measure in Congress that will go against the interest and welfare of the people.


READ THIS: in relation with the VAT increase...

SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT… pieces of paper, ballpen, and coffee on my desk… its past 2 am, still studying for my moving exam in Anatomy tomorrow… err… I’m too tired of studying, but I’ve got no other choice, its already semi-final… ho-hum… I’m hungry, a cup of coffee wont satisfy my hunger… I need to buy a pancit canton… It was quite creepy at dawn along the streets. Got to go to a 24 hour store to buy some pancit canton…

Reaching the pancit canton from the counter, I heard this very familiar voice… Oh its mike! My classmate in history…

It’s maybe because of financial problems that He’s working in this store… I greet him… and he was surprised of seeing me at that wee hour of the day…
I talked to him and asked him some questions… and because I want to unwind myself, I spare him some of my minutes chatting after paying the pancit canton.

CLICK CLICK CLICK… on my hands on the mouse as I was enjoying my pancit canton… Surfing the net, checking my tabulas, and chat to my friends… brp… ahhm, the pancit canton really taste good…

SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT!!! Back on my work… fells sleepy, it’s because I’m full. Precisely, the respiration rate decreases.. brp.. Excuse me… READING READING READING… goodness, the information won’t get inside my brain… Looking at the table, I found a news paper, It’s my father’s… I stand up and read the front page… WHHAATT??? ….

The House Bill 3555 was already approved by the congress… only 11 congressmen disapproved out from 126 who approved the bill. There were more than 20 congressmen who walked out saying “Ang boses nang masa ay nawala na”…

I know at first place, that the 2% increase of VAT will really affect the poorest sectors of the country. In a split of seconds, I remembered Mike…

He was indeed a hard working student. He studies in the morning and works in the evening. I couldn’t imagine how he maintains good grades in school. As a working scholar in the school, he never bother to receive even to a very MINIMAL WAGE of 100 pesos a MONTH, that’s because he really needs the money.
His father is a farmer and has worked very hard to support him. Sometimes, his allowance got delayed. I really wonder how he budgets his money from his dad, receiving only 1000 per month. How about his daily expenses? House rental? And house bills?

Here comes the additional 2% VAT… another additional blah blah blah…

If this HOUSE BILL will be approved, and be implemented as a law, there will be another thousands of MIKES who will double their effort, and another millions of MIKE that will suffer…

Reading another passage…. “ECONOMY GROWS 6.1% on 2004... “ hindi ko man lang naramdaman…” I said to myself…

I’m too sleepy, I have to go to bed... It’s almost 4 am… before I go to my room, I went to my 3 yr old brothers room and watched them closely… such innocence… what will be their future? Will he be another Mike?... sigh…

The House Bill is now in the SENATE, and we can still do something about it…



I dont want to buy another pancit canton higher than its previous value ~bow~

How about you??? are you with the VAT increase or against with it???



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Comment posted on December 1st, 2005 at 05:08 PM

queenvalerie (guest)

Comment posted on April 8th, 2005 at 04:59 PM
I'm against it. They say the increase isn't really that big. Pero syempre, pag-na-accumulate, malaki din. Besides, they are also the culprit behind our country's worsening condition. We're the second MOST CORRUPT country in Asia come on!!! What they're doing is wrong!
Comment posted on March 10th, 2005 at 10:38 PM
CJ, may primer ka ba about this VAT thing? I'd like to know more... :-)
Comment posted on February 27th, 2005 at 03:49 PM
representatives re in the congress to represent(as it is tautologically said in their name)therefore, in that case, no one can say that "ang boses ng masa ay nawala na" because the masses are represented by these pompous politicians.

i am neither with, or against the VAT increase. first of all, i am in no place to speak thereof, because i have not read the whole of this bill.

and if everybody thinks that the poor will sink into an all time low, think again. it is their fault at sinking. society is never to blame, nor the government. since the early 90's the government has been advancing a program on entrepreneurship, and some; only some; have refuged in its purposes. then there is that job creation program in the early 00's. many jobs have been created, again, some have gone to its purposes. and as soon as these people have found not a job, they will point their fingers at the government. tell them that they are corrupt, and that they do nothing but sit, sit and sit. might be, but what do we care?

we honestly pay taxes, some take from it. i don't care. you cannot change that. not even a hundred edsa's can change politics. for 1800years now, everyone has been trying to change politics. not even plato, aristotle, heidegger or any philosopher or political analyst/ scientist have taken out corruption.

waht is the solution now? find a job. poor people need to find jobs. "what jobs? wala na ngang open e! laging kailangan may college degree ka o masteral!" it's nobody elses fault but yours that you have not finished schooling. because anyone can. yes, anyone can. money is not an object, scholarships are always open.

taxation is one of the basic powers of the state. non-payment of taxes can be charged with proper cases in court, and may be punishable with 20 years- reclusion perpetua.

ngay,.. ang haba na pala! waha!!! wala lang... kaunting saloobin lamang po! apir!

may relevant article po ako dito: <a href="http://tabulas.com/~t_a_d_o/735236.html#comment">http://tabulas.com/~t_a_d_o/735236.html#comment</a>
Comment posted on February 22nd, 2005 at 08:09 PM
pare, wala na bang political entry ? napansin ko lang kasi na dalawa na account mo. (peace):)

ed (guest)

Comment posted on January 10th, 2006 at 09:18 AM
ulol bobo
Comment posted on February 14th, 2005 at 03:40 AM
ok got it! pagkatapos kong magbasa ng mga dyaryo (kasi di ako nakakapanood ng tv sangayon), napagtanto ko na ang mga bagay-bagay.

Hindi makakatulong ang pagtataas nila ng VAT sapagkat hindi ito ang tanging solusyon para maiahon tayo sa kahirapan. Hindi lang ito ang TANGING paraan. Inaaksaya lang nila ang pagpapatupad ng HB3555! katulad nga ng sabi ng ibang tabulero, lalo lang tayong maghihirap, lulubog, at malulunod.

Eh kung pagtuunan kaya nila ng pansin ang mga tulo na nangyayari sa gobyerno, ang pagtatanggal o pagbabawas ng "pork barrel" (P 20B ang matitipid) at "int'l revenue allotment" (bawasan ng kalahati lamang ay P 60B na ang matitipid!) kung saan ang mga "law-makers" na "15-30" (a-kinse at katapusan lang kung sumupot) din lang ang nagbebenifit. Ayon sa Nat'l Tax Research Ctr, higit pa sa P 300B ang nawala sa gobyerno noong 1993-1994 dahil sa VAT leakage, P30.7B anually naman noong 1992-2002 dahil sa "dishonesty of payments made by some corporate taxpayers and loopholes in the VAT collection system." Marami pang fatcs tungkol dito, nakakagulat nga kung malalaman ng isang ordinarying mamamayan!

Bago sana sila magmungkahi ng ganitong pagtataas, kung saan tayo ang magbabayad sa mga perang itinago ng mga pulitikong ito, ayusin muna nila ang gulong ginawa nila! Bawas-bawasan kaya nila ang pangungurakot, ang pagpapasarap sa buhay, at pambobola, eh di hindi na kailangan pang magtaas ng kung anu-ano!

Buti sana kung naibabalik sa atin ang mga binabayad nating buwis, kung nakikita natin ang pag-unlad, at hindi puro color pink na bubong, ihian for daboys, at footbridge lamang na nakakalat dito sa kalye ng metro mla., kailangan ng buong bansa ang pag-unlad, hindi lang ng mga pulitiko.

Kung gusto talaga nila tayong tulungan, pakinggan sana nila tayo..

segwey: apir cj!;) pasali na din sa signature campaign ni kuya yanzy. hehe..
Comment posted on February 12th, 2005 at 07:44 PM
teka teka, hindi pa ito ang komento ko, tinitimbang ko pa rin ang pancit canto, este ang talakayang ito.

buti na lang nagpost ka, kasi may critique paper kami tungkol dito..sana makatulong ito..hehe ;)
Comment posted on February 11th, 2005 at 07:42 PM
whahahaha... change side ako. no to vat increase na ako!!! oo nga... lalong maghihirap ang mga pilipino kapag ipinatupad ang VAT increase. Dapat VANITY TAX na lang, tutal naman mayayaman ang gumagastos dian... whahaha...:)
Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 12:53 PM
before any increase, i think the goevernment should make things impossibly cheatable. with all of the vat increases they did for the past years, we're still the third country with the biggest budget deficit and word bank loans in SE Asia. creepy.

silencer (guest)

Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 07:14 PM
para sa akin, ok lang rin ang VAT increase. Kunyari nagpaparenovate ka ng bahay... at ayaw mong gumastos pa ng apartment o condo para lang maymapagstayan... magsasacrifice ka munang mabuhay sa masikip ng parte ng iyong bahay habang ginagawa ito. At kapag natapos na ang bahay, malaki na ito at kaginhawaan na ang kasunod. In relation sa VAT increase, magsacrifice muna ng onti dahil maganda naman ang kapalit. (sana lang ay walang temptasyon na mangyayari sa mga pulitiko sa laki ng halaga ng malilikom nito). At saka isa pa... sa tingin ko ay hindi rin natin mapapansin ang paglaki ng mga presyo kasi 2% lang naman ang idinagdag. It's just my opinion... :)
Comment posted on February 11th, 2005 at 07:33 PM
I got your point... but that is just my point of view... and i'm not a congressman or anyone responsible for that thing. I'm not as nationalistic as you are. :)

y? (guest)

Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 02:10 PM
e tama naman si silencer ah! epal kau dito! hindi ninyo naintindihan. para yan sa ikakabuti ng masa!

y? (guest)

Comment posted on February 11th, 2005 at 01:27 PM
iba naman yong issue ni erap
Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 03:57 PM
hindi po kami nag uumepal... sapagkat mga opinion at arguments po ang shinishare namin dito di lang sibjective at personal comments sa fellow bloggers....

may maitatanong lang po... di ba marami nang "VAT increase" episodes bansa natin? nababawasan ba ang mga mahihirap? umunlad ba ating bansa? nabura ba ang kurapsyon sa ating gobyerno? kung masagot mo yan ng "OO" at maexplain ng konkreto....... i-dedelete ko po yung recent account ko sa tab.

salamat po sa pagbabasa.

y? (guest)

Comment posted on February 11th, 2005 at 01:31 PM
no need to explain, nakikita naman yan sa performance ni GMA, kaya nga bigyan natin ng pagkakataon para maitama niya ang mga pagkakamali ng iba.
Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 01:24 AM
okey din yung opinion mo.. pero yung 2% may seem maliit lang pero in the long run malaki na rin yun.... kasi nagaafect ito sa lahat---- from pipitsuging bilihin tulad ng lollipop sa mga mamahaling mga bilihin tulad ng kotse....

at ang nakakasuka pa dito ay, pinapataw ito sa mga mahihirap.. kahit pa i-tiered o discount pa ng gobyerno-- pera pa rin yan..... Marami kasing tax laws loophole ang gobyerno na nagcacater sa mga malalaki at mayayamang tae sa ating bansa. example: Ako ay mayaman, i have a net income of 30 mil. ikaw mahirap, may income na 2500 a month.... tapos dahil sa mga tax loopholes (gaya na pagiging foreigner ko-- sample lang to), hindi ako magbabayad ng tax.. eh sino ngayon ang magbabayad sa tax na sana ibabayad ko... of course hahalungkatin ng gobyerno ang bulsa mo, o ng mga average na filipino kasi wala sa kanila ang kapangyarihan. madali silang api-apihin (dahil we let them).

i have more facts about the recent VAT increase.. id be happy to share them with you.... nakakatakot kasi ang implications nitong increase sa tax. nakakatakot.
Comment posted on February 11th, 2005 at 07:37 PM
please do share... i wanna know... :)
Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 07:25 PM
oo nga naman... ;-) ok naman lang tlga pag tataasan ng gobyerno ang VAT... but to face the fact na hindi rin naibabalik maayos ang pera na binayad natin ng maayos... napunta lang sa mga bulsa nila... billions of pesos po ang leakage ng VAT... kung tutuosin, napakaraming bagay na ang magagawa nyan sa ating bansa,and for that hindi na kailngan na ipataas ang tax... in this issue, its another way of making money for their ownselves... we cannot deny that our government officials are corrupt, coz they really are! and wen we talk about money??? ewan ko nlng sa mga korap na opisyal... lalaki ng lalaki ang kanilang tommy nyan... 2%? hindi mapapansin? hhehehe i dnt think so, how about kung sa malakihing gastuin na??? naiipit kc dito ang mga masa na napabayaan ng gobyerno... hehehe opinion ko lang rin eto. ;-)

scooby (guest)

Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 06:58 PM
gayan lang ba ang mga taong walang panahon? /joke/

y? (guest)

Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 06:56 PM
well for me, its really okay. y dont u give a chance for the arroyo government to prove whats the right thing??? diba?
Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 01:30 AM
what????? she is in her second term already? and raising taxes? there is no RIGHT to prove their..... coz in the first place it aint right!

bakit? i-bibill nila tayo for their incompetence for their greed.. di tama yan. Mrs. ARROYO already had the chance to redeem herself and her admin after EDSA 2----- but she failed.... imjust amazed that despite her failure people still voted for her BUUT THEN AGAIN... her campaign druing the election was mighty strong (USING MONEY FROM THE KABAN NG BAYAN and ALL).

y? (guest)

Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 02:03 PM
thats the problem with you people coz palagi nalang kayo pasaway, you didnt even give her the chance, as you can see, the phil economy has grown to 6.1%
Comment posted on February 10th, 2005 at 12:34 AM
at opo, sadyang pasaway po ako....
Comment posted on February 10th, 2005 at 12:32 AM
kung may 6.1% growth ang ekonomiya ng bansa natin, bakit po kailangan pang i-increase ng gobyerno ang taxes?

kung meron mang growth sa bansa bakit di pa rin umuuwi mga katulad ng nanay ko na nagpapa-alipin sa ibang bansa at habang 90% ng mga pinoy gusto ng mangibang bansa?

kung meron growth sa bansa natin bakit tila wala pa rin pagbabago.

nagtatanong lang po.
Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 08:40 PM
huwatttt???!!! wala lang. practice lang yun. tsk..tsk..tsk
Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 07:30 PM
hahaha ARROYO??? y give her a chance??? shes like a wolf in a sheeps fleece!!!.. halleerr?? ;-) heheh *peace tau lahat ha*

y? (guest)

Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 02:06 PM
isa karin. bakit mo naman naman nasabi na GMA is like that? i really dont think so!
Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 04:09 PM
hindi ako sumasangyon sa "para ito sa bayan"...talagang bang diyan na lang giginhawa ang ating bayan? next time, baka human sacrifice na ang kapalit pero you'd always give a reason na "para sa bayan naman eh", let's try it. syet.
Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 06:07 PM
NO TO VAT INCREASE!

the government should work on the proper implementation and collection of taxes.
Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 06:48 PM
at yong VAT leakage din!!!! injustice!!!
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 04:45 PM
vat increase, rise in tax evasion. which means, dagdag nanaman ang problema ng bansa natin. ok sana ang increase in taxes if we don't have the corruption problem in our country. problem is we do, which means sino ang kawawa? the government? not! san naman mapupunta ang perang pinagpapaguran ng mga nagwowork? most probably, the government will just use it for their own selfish means. hay, ang hirap talaga ng buhay. bagong gimmik lang nanaman nila itong VAT increase! ~_^

silencer (guest)

Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 07:16 PM
whahaha... oo nga... being the 2nd most corrupt country in the world, THERE'S NO DOUBT!!!
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 09:33 PM
your dfinitely ryt!!! in our government ? they're like hungry crocodiles!!!...
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 03:49 PM
ok so at last, i made a comment.

I am totally against the VAT Hike. It really would make our country steep on the lowest level of poverty.

I think that the revenue system is the one that should be fixed. Look at that lost revenues, isn't that big? If the revenue system would be made better, we could have a more stable economy and there would be no need to raise prices.
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 09:35 PM
hahah... TAMA!!! by the way.. san na kay-out ko?
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 09:43 PM
hm.inaayos ko pa eh. :) bukas siguro baka maready ko na. :)
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 10:04 PM
wow.. ngeks.. biniro lang po kita eh.. sira ym dito.. i cant get inside ym... ;-) walang chat. huhuhuh
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 11:12 AM
sa estado ng mga taong namumuno... hindi! siguradong wala paring patutunguhan yan.

habang tumatagal lalong maghihirap ang pilipinas.

height na lang ni gloria ang hindi tumataas. (pun intended)
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 11:17 AM
oo nga... tumaas na cguro lahat... pati na mga bilihin, basic goods, fares, etc. etc... hahha height nalang noi gloria ang hindi tumaas.. bwahhha (nasabi ko na yan sa ibaba .. heheh cnabi ko lang uli.. ;-))
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 10:42 AM
sa pananaw ng isang mamimili:
im against vat!
mahal na ang bilihin!
imagine namili kami ng chichiria kagabi, tapos P200 pesos na un lahat! ano ba yun!

sa pananaw ng isang "objective observer":

naisali iyan sa isa sa mga motion namin sa debate tournament. basically, tapusin na muna ang problem ng corruption, kaysa sa magdagdag ng buwis, dahil ang idadagdag na buwis ay mapupunta lang sa mga bulsa ng mga kurakot na opisyal!
resolve/minimize corruption, kung kung ok na iyon, dun na kayo mag-isip kung kailangan ba magdagdag ng buwis o hindi.
Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 04:01 AM
chek!
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 11:15 AM
oo nga... tama ka don.. pero kailan pa kaya yan magyari?.. by the way, bout sa inask mo na page.. sori tlga.. nakalimutan ko.. bz kc ako plagi.. *peace* hope u understand... hehe and alam ko naman na kayang kaya mo yan... ;-) astig!
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 09:32 AM
i'm against the VAT increase... i-improve kaya muna nila tax collection and go after sa mga nangungurakot before raising more taxes... andaming pwedeng pagkunan ng pondo, nauuwi lang sa bulsa ng iba...
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 11:12 AM
i strongly agree with u!!!!!! *apir*
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 03:21 AM
totaly against VAT. pero sana wag magtaas ng presyo ang C2! :(
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 11:09 AM
ano c2? heheh
Comment posted on February 6th, 2005 at 08:38 PM
AMEN!!! bwahaha
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 11:16 PM
cguro makakatulong nman ung increse ng VAT sa government pero di pa ngaun.. di pa ksi kaya ng mga pilipino ung dagdag na burden ng pagaangat ng VAT.. buti sana kung ung pera nila nadadagdagan din, yung sahod, pati na rin ung mga naibibigay ng government in return dun sa mga tax na binabayaran ng tao.. kaso hinde, kaya im against the VAT increase.. ayan.. nagcomment nman ako dito..
Comment posted on February 6th, 2005 at 08:34 PM
haha natatawa ako.. oklang daw pero against din.. ngek ngek ngek... hahah ok lang naman tlga kung taasan nila ang VAT, tanong... makatarongan ma ito? wala bang mga LEAKAGE na nagaganap? mataas ba sahud ng mga tao? hindi ba korup ang mga opisyal? nabigyan ba tayo ng magandang serbisyo sa gobyerno??? e lahat yon ay hindi, wala!!! so wala cyang kwentsta kwents.. hehehe ;-)
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 11:34 PM
kya nga sabi ko.. 'di pa ngaun'.. ung "idea" na mag-angat ng VAT eh makatutulong lang kung kaya na ng mga pilipino.. etc.. etc..
Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 03:37 PM
sabi ko nga.. heheheh
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 10:55 PM
hahhah in small things parang hindi na ma fell... pero kung maramihan na??? ano nayan.. and applicable lang ata yan sa mga mamayaman... e paano kaming mahihirap???.. huhuhuh... lets do something about this!!!

Joiz (guest)

Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 08:49 PM
hey diz is mehh!!!

nice one.... oo na!!!
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 10:45 PM
tnx po...

by the way, cno po cla? ;-)

SaDiStiC_AnGeL (guest)

Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 05:33 PM
it sUckS hOw tHE gOv eXpeCtS tHe ppOL tO paY hiGher taXeS, whEn tHere iSn't eVen a SLigHt inCreaSe in thE labOrers' SaLaRieS..

i wOuldn't mInD thAt muCh if tHe inCreAse wUd b bEnefiCiaL tO oUr ecOnomY aNd tO oUr cOuntrY in gEneraL, bUt althOugh tHe gOv clAimS tO hAve SOME bEnefitS-- tHe detRimEntS cLearLy OutweiGh tHe "pReDicteD" pOsitiVe effeCtS.
Comment posted on February 6th, 2005 at 08:37 PM
hahah it really really sucks... bhahah hindi man lang tayo nabigyan nila ng magandang serbisyo... kunin pa nila pera natin... mga kawatan!!! hahaa mamatay na sana lahat na korup na opisyal!!! MaHiLiG Ka PaLa Sa MgA TiTik Na MaliIt At MalAki... HeHahe ;-) peace
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 09:43 AM
against! obviously...

it's always the little people and working class affected.

but there is nothing we can do to stop it. *sigh*
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 11:03 PM
of course we could always do something about this... if all of us be united, may magawa tau... bakit nah? are we gonna be just a mere audience sitting in our comfy chairs, texting, reading pocket books, watching tv and not doing anything??? of course not. Lets not be the kind of person na wala lang ginawa.... ;-) ayt?
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 10:20 AM
i agree 100%... ;-)

xwing_jaina (guest)

Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 08:12 AM
as the football term!

"unnecessary roughness!"

with regards to vat.

its sad...i guess the people in our government r really not using their wisdom..instead they r being so greedy and selfish...

i just hope they will do something good out of it...and do something abt the wages of the common people...

asa pa ako no!

nice entry lil bro!keep it up!

drink milk while studying too..okidokie?

have a great weekend!
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 10:58 PM
I agree... they're greedy, selfish, and corrupt too!!!

hahha ayaw ko ng milk eh kc inaantok ako non... bwahahha, i only drink milk before going to sleep... ;-)
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 12:20 AM
yes i am against the proposal with regards to increasing VAT...

i understand that the goal of the government is to strenghten their money-gathering mechanism, so that in the long run the government can reduce our fiscal debt...

but such action produces short term harms which, in reality, are significant enough to produce something bad, something that is irrevokable...

i therefore say that increasing taxes is not the BEST solution for our fiscal debt...rather the government should strengthen its money-gathering mechanism by:

1. making sure that tax collection will be effective, ergo, corruption, tax evasion of people etc. etc. should be lessened, better if those will be removed from the society...
2. capitalize on what is in the status quo already...let's say for example we should legalize prostitution...and i therefore argue that by legalizing it, we are declaring it as a legitimate and legal occupation, thus it is subject to income tax already. netx is that the welfare of these prostitutes will be considered since part of the mechanism, the government will require these prostitutes to undergo weekly or monthly medical check-ups to make sure that they are kept in good condition. Adding up to that, the government should keep in mind that they will only allow women over the age of 18 but not more than 35 to become prostitutes. given that safety net, we see here that child prostitution is will also be lessened...and last argument...we will later on shape the society, from a society which descriminates prostitutes, into a tolerant one...and later on into a society which accepts prostitutes as part of their community...
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 05:21 PM
pragmatism... being practical... thats a good idea, pero here in the philippines, its not possible to happen considering that more people think of it as an immoral act, and then again legalizing prostitution is still not the issue here... considering the VAT leakage, its worth multi billion pesos... if it will just be used properly by the government for the benefit of all the filipino pipol... theres no need to increase VAT..
Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 10:01 PM
i already considered that part...where prostitution is considered an immoral act...

selling your body to someone for the sake of pleasure...isn't it the same as an actress showing of her talents, or sometimes her body just to earn money? isn't it the same with a singer who capitalizes on his/her singing talents...

part of my argument is that it shapes the society later on...which answers the prblem of the society seeing it as an immoral act...such short term harms will be rewarded by long term gains as stated in my commentary

i know that legalizing prostitution may not be the best, or plausible avenue of getting more money...and i also take into consideration that there's really a need to enforce tax collection and ensure transparency by strengthening checks and balances in the government...the government is already working hard to reduce the corruption level here in the phils. since the it is part of america's conditionalities to the phils. in giving out monetary compensation or aid(i.e. military aid)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 10:11 PM
honestly, pagtinaasan ang price ng isaw magagalit ako!!!! :P
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 10:26 PM
hahah ikaw talaga master, pag na approve na.. tataas tlga yan... by the way ano po ba ba isaw??? *boink boink* walang alam... bwahahha
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 10:33 PM
isaw is the small intestine of a chicken, inihaw siya parang BBQ. Ang sarap nun! 3 pesos lang, dati 2 lang yun e, hehe.

seriously, against ako sa VAT increase. naghihirap na nga ang pinas tapos this is what the resolved to? what kind of crap is that? hindi nila tinutulungan ang mga tao, mas lalo pa nila pinapahirap. in the first place there are other issues that need to be tackled para maayos yung economy ng pinas, and maayos siya without VAT increase.

kung ibalik ng mga politicians (yung iba a) yung mga pinangbayad nila sa mga houses, cars at iba pang luho nila sa kaban ng bayan e di nakatulong pa yun!

(believable na ba cj? :-) ) hehehe pero seryoso yan!
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 10:44 PM
hahaha thats better bri(bree)... ;-) thats the spirit!!! ah! yo alng pala.. as faras i could remember, 1 piso lang yan noon, pero ngayon 2.5 na.. hahah ;-)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 07:49 PM
forum ulit ito??
but anyway VAT for me is a no-no... di nga nila nakolekta ang 20% ng mga taxes mula noong 1989... at maraming mga kumpanya ang may TAX HOLIYEARS... hindi holidays....pero actually HOLIDECADES sya...
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 09:44 AM
uyon ko ana ko!!! cge go go go!
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 10:27 PM
YUP YUP YUP.... ang galing ni mami!!! master master inah!!! at isa pa, marami VAT leakage... ngek ngek ngek...
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 06:51 PM
Uncollected VAT amounts to over P208 billion during the last 3 years, under the 10 percent VAT levy. If they can collect this VAT leakage, there is no need to increase the VAT rate from 10 percent to 12 percent. Also, we do not know if this tax is going to the right places and not to the pockets of government people; how much more if it is increased to 12 percent! The problem of the govt. is that it created the fiscal problems and did not make this tax measure before the elections for political reasons. Now they want us to solve the problems they created by increased taxes. Besides, they have not made tax collection more effective since time immemorial. Those who voted for Gloria should be responsible for all these.
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 10:35 PM
hahaha.... natatawa ako sa last part... those who will vote for gloria will be responsible for all of these...
oo nga, tama ka! kung kolektahon nila yon, ndi na kailngan pang pataasan ang VAT... pero dapat ba natin sisihin ang mga taong bomoboto kay gloria? hehehe... nway, ang maapiktohan kc dito ay ang mga masa... maging maliit nlng ang value ng kanilang kinikita araw araw... hahaha and kawawa naman kami mga mahihirap... ngayon kc tumataas na halos bilihin.. may VAT pang tataas, mataas na fare sa jeepny, mga gasolinahan, isa lang ata ang hindi tumaas... at ito ag sahod.. heheh ;-)
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 08:45 AM
pare, meron pang isang di tataas at hinding hindi na tataas at yan ay walang iba kundi si GMA. Isama mo na rin si Mahal at Mura. (lol) . (joke time!) peace GMA!:P
Comment posted on February 6th, 2005 at 09:13 AM
"in short all her good promises of a better economy is but a sugar coated illusion. fooling the honest citizen just to win the seat."
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 05:02 PM
hahahahha *apir!!!* GLORIA???===> "a WOLF in a SHEEP'S clothing..." a wolf in a sheeps fleece...
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 04:58 PM
hahah i-apil unta gani na nako.. ge unahan ko nimo... bwahhaha *apir* hahah u really hate gloria isnt it??? and you really like rizal... hahaha pariha man gud mo ug ngalan... idol mo ba tlga c rizal??? mmmhh... wala lang... ei, by the way, ur entry bout the beggar, same tau pero iba ang laman hehe.. critic kc yon bout something... ;-) nabasahan ko kc yong last entry mo...(article ko para sa mag namin.skul pub.) actually ang galing mong magsulat...im still on the process... ;-) beginner pa po... ano yr kana sa ateneo?
Comment posted on February 6th, 2005 at 09:11 AM
pare, salamat. second year pa lang ako sa Philosophy. Hindi rin naman ako magaling magsulat eh. hehe. GMA? Obvious naman di ba pare? (lol), si Jose Rizal naman, idol ko siya. Ginaya ko pa nga buhok niya dati eh pero di ko ginagaya pagiging babaero niya. (lol). Keep the entries coming. magaling magaling!
Comment posted on February 6th, 2005 at 08:46 PM
hahah klaya pala... i thikn u should read some books about him... not just the good things.. but i guess malaman mo rin ang mga bad side ni rizal.. hahah pipol would think of him kc na his a demigod, unreachable, very heroic... ;-) hahah but to think his also human just like one of us... ;-) okay lang yan tol... astig!!! *peace*
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 06:12 PM
mmm..ok lang sakin kasi dito sa uk talagang SOBRANG taas ng VAT!halos lahat ata ng pera ng bansang to, sa buwis na pupunta..pero sa tingin ko kaya mataas ang ekonomiya dito dahil din dun..kung mataas ang tax,parang mas natutulungan ng gobyerno ang mga tao dito sa uk..kaya walang mahihirap dito..lahat suportado ng gobyerno..
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 05:09 PM
haha ambot ninyo mga tao... hahah nanlupad gawas sa pinas.. bwahahah *peace* your working in call center arcy ayt?... ;-)... by the way, tama ka don bout sa uk and us... hahah nababalik kc sa mga tao ang kanilang binabayad na malaking buwis... ndi gaya dito, ang nabalik sa mga tao ay kahirapan...
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 09:57 AM
ah!!! UK is a 1st world country mataas po salary dyan, phil. s a 3rd world, wala pong trabaho pipol dito. tataasan mo pa ng VAT ano na ang kakainin ng mga tao if they have to pay mataas na VAT? makakakain pakay kami?
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 10:38 PM
hahah its a differnt situation kc... iba kc ang pamamaraan ng uk at pinas.. alam mo na dito, maraming korup na gobyerno... hehehe ;-) e hindi pa nabigya ng magandang serbisyo ang mga pinoy... e nasa bulsa lang napunta ata nila ang mga pera natin... ;-)
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 04:50 PM
SANA nga... pero kung ang mga tao ay hanggang sa salita nalang at wala sa gawa, walang mangyayari... it's a good thing that your against it and have seen the reality of what the governemnt is doing in its pipol... we can do something about this... hehe like signature campaign... Sana nga rin magkaisa ang mga tabulista!!! ;-) lets serve the people... ayt??? for the benefit of everyone especially sa masa!
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 05:20 PM
hindi na siguro kelangan ilagay yang last question sa entry mo.
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 10:39 PM
haha bat naman?
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:35 PM
salamat po... ei, dont get me wrong, the person mike that i mention above is not mike na ~sigamik sa tabulas... ;-) oo nga... 'ika ni myke sigaw ng kabataan sa katahimikan.. tama ba ako.. basta yon na.. hahaha *apir* friend din pala kau.. same ehre.. friend naman tau lahat sa tabulas.. bwahahaha

deliverance (guest)

Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:39 PM
yah, i know. si myke a.k.a ~sigamik ang tinutukoy ko..:)
*apir!*
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:48 PM
hahaha nagkatagpo lang na same ang kanilang pangalan.. bwahahha... friend din pala kau... friend din ba kayo in person??? ;-) he's from ateneo de zamboanga ayt? akala mo cguro na c mike yon as in ~sigamik.. hehehhe ;-) *apir*

Anonymous (guest)

Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 01:43 PM
dito lang din kami nagkakilala sa tab.. layo nga niya eh,zamboanga! ako,laguna. hehe. pero ok din..dumadami friends ko dahil sa tabulas..:) r u ang from cebu? opps..lumalayo sa entry mo ang usapan..hehe..sorry..:)
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 04:34 PM
hahah oo nga... lumalayo na sa topic.. nways yup, i'm from cebu studying in SWU. ;-) y man? your deebeedee ayt?

deliverance (guest)

Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 01:52 PM
yup ako po un hindi nakapaglog-in eh.. SWU? sa Urgello? hehe..alam ko un cebuana din ako na taga-laguna..hahah.. btw, dbdee is a girl..hehe. ingat po!
Comment posted on February 7th, 2005 at 10:05 PM
yup sa urgello po.. haha paano mo nalaman?

deliverance (guest)

Comment posted on February 9th, 2005 at 01:53 PM
eh kc cebuana dn ako..hehe..
tc! link kita..
hapi chinese new yr

deliverance (guest)

Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:22 PM
AGAINST ako sa VAT increase. Napakalaking pasanin nito para sa mamamayang pilipino. Sabi ng gobyerno, ito na daw ang pinakamagandang paraan [kasama na yung iba pang mga nakokolektang tax],para bumaba ang lumalaking budget deficit ng bansa,na last year ay lumago sa 186.1 billion pesos. Pero sa tingin ko, kahit ilang VAT increase pa ang ipa-implement,walang mangyayari hangga't hindi nawawala ang mga 'magnanakaw' sa gobyerno. Hindi pa sila nakuntento, talagang pinipiga nila ang bulsa ng masa.

Magandang ideya yung signature campaign. Dapat sumigaw tayong mga kabataan [ika nga ni myke..] =)

ok ang entry mo!
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:50 PM
salamat... para to sa lahat ng mamayang pilipino... ;-)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 03:56 PM
ei, ano ba angyari sa blog ko.... hahahahsira sira sira...!!! nakakainis... bwahahah nawala bg, black font.. whhatt??? anyway... wala lng.. ;-)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:10 PM
ok na! kitang kita na ang comments namin:)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:18 PM
all hail puppy_me .. ang galing mo!!! bigyan liwanag ang mga comento ng mga tao... *bow* hahaha
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 03:36 PM
u got a good entry here..whatever tax they implement (VAT, excise, etc, etc.) I am AGAINST it no matter what those genius economists conjure as good reasons why these should be implemented.. it's not that the government is NOT earning enough, it is how they spend and pocket the money. (correct me if i am wrong but the country is top 2 among most corrupt countries in the world)

aside from this, they already get so much from the working class ( more than 13% on my income monthly!! )and from OFWs - but they do not give back the services rightly to the citizens. saan pa dudukot ang mga tao? if they haven't used, overused and abused the government's money for a certain economist's campaign spree last year, the government shouldn't have been having problems looking for additional sources of income :(
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 03:45 PM
Yup... me too, i cant even see one good reason na bakit pa pataasan nila ang VAT... mga klasi klasing THUMB TAX na napupunta lng sa kanilang mga bulsa (korup na opisyal sa gobyerno) na dapat para sa ikabubuti nang kanilang serbisyo para sa lahat ng mga mamayang Pilipino...
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 03:22 PM
Have read in the newspaper that Senator Ralph Recto proposes that the imposition of the value-added tax be done in tiers. Non-essentials would be more heavily taxed and certain commodities would be exempt. At first i thought what a wonderful idea! Then i read on and, well, let’s just say that the idea is great but the way Recto wants it implemented is a lot of baloney.

<p>

Exempting transportation and petroleum products will not bring the prices of fuel down. The cartel of oil companies (Shell, Petron and Caltex) dictate the prices and they are not even always based on fluctuations in international market prices. These companies just happen to have a monopoly and, hence, able to call the shots. By exempting them, the government loses revenues but the man on the street gains nothing. It’s like giving them gifts for robbing us.

<p>

But, like i said earlier, the idea of a tiered VAT structure is a good one. But choosing between essentials and non-essentials, and who gets to be exempted, has to be free from arbitrariness. Logically, it is the prime commodities that need to be exempted. Rice, bread, cooking oil, sugar, flour… Then, processed food should be given preferential treatment with lower VAT rates. Luxury goods would bear the highest rates. Tara na! sasali ako dyan sa signature campaign ni lefthandrebel:)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 03:37 PM
para sakin sobra na kc yan... isa na dito mga korupt na opisyal sa gobyerno... e ang mga masa ang napipiit... gaya ni mike, gaya ko... ok lang yan sau puppy_me mayaman ka kc.. bwahahah joke.. magbayad ka ng mas malaking tax.. hehehe *peace*.. oo nga no!!! ako nga rin sa signature campaign... go go go...
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 03:43 PM
hahaha loko! anong mayaman ka diyan? kaya nga ako nagta trabaho para magkapera at para makabili sa mga luho ko. hahaha:P
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:12 PM
oo nga naman, tau mga tao ma estudyante, ma propesyonal, tambay, mayaman o mahirap ay nagbabayad ng buwis sa gobyerno... at isa kana dito puppy_me... (ano ba name mo tlga?)... its just that alam naman natin lahat na wala napunta sa tamang destinasyon ang pera pabalik sa atin kung hindi pampalaki lang sa mga tiyan ng mga corrupt na mga politiko... hahaha ang laki na nga nakuha nilang pera sa atin... parang patayin na siguro nila tau... e favorite ko pa naman spaghetti... mamahal na spagh... VAT increase... huhuhuhu mamahal narin pancit canton... wala na akong pambili.. ;-( kulang na pera ko... gaya ni Mike... ;-( ;-)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:25 PM
Just call me Jo. My full name is Jo Marie Cong:)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:44 PM
okies.. got it.. by the Jo, signature campaign tau.. wbahhhah kilala mo rin c arcy at yanzy??? hahaha actually, wala kc ako magawa ngayon, kaya gawa ako ng entry.. hahah nabasa ko kc to, bout sa BAYAN MUNA.. ASTIG!!! and the story, totoo tlga yon... ;-) hahah its quite the same with my article... mejo complicated lang yong article na para sa magazine namin.. hahahaha kilala mo rin c jose_rizal ayt??? its a coincidence na he's talking about the beggars... and to think the title of my article is "The plastic cup" its all about the beggar which i link in our society, as well as the outside world, gaya ng US, and the tsunami victims.. hahaha prior to be edited pa ang article ko... the publication is planning to release the magazine before feb.18... ;-) ang saya no? hahaha actually, first time ko yong gumawa ng article... hindi kc ako marunong.. palagi nalang kakatayin ang article koh... pero salamat kay dadi jube ~gareb sa tabulas!!! tinuruan dn niya ako, some tips and everything... hahaha gd thing nakapasa article ko.. wahehehe eto nga lang entry ko sa tabulas ala ng edit edit.. hahah wala na akong time.. exam din kami.... sangkatutak na exam.. pero DAPAT LANG TLGA MALAMAN NG LAHAT ABOUT THIS VAT... kaya gumawa ako... hahaha walang panahon... ;-)

driven (guest)

Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 07:03 PM
PARE! ang astig ng dating ah
Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 07:31 PM
hahah ano? salamt nlang po.. ;-)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:51 PM
yihee! magaling bravo! sige signature campign na!... oh btw, hindi ko pa kilala si Arcy at Yanzy. Pero si Jose_rizal , nakilala ko na siya dito sa tabulas lately lang. Yah ok yung entry nya about the beggars. Pwede na rin siya isama sa campaign..hahaha. Anyway, astig ng mga entries mo. ipagpatuloy mo yan..malayo pa mararating mo. Ey! punta ako cebu dis coming June..kitakitz tayo mga taga tabulas dyan!:)
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 04:58 PM
cge... oo bah... this june? okies... c arcy=~pulahan and yanzy=lefthandedrebel... yan.. dba order pa nga cla ng tea mo??? ayt?
hindi naman ako journalist eh.. hahah ahse po ako>>nursing after two yrs... ngeks... pero gusto ko lang tlga magsulat... and its one thing of expressing myself... and practicing press freedom too.. to serve the pipol and serve our country.. bwahhha
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 03:11 PM
hindi pa ba sapat ang ninanakaw nila (mga bulok na opisyal ng gobyerno) na kailangan pa nilang puspusang "ine-empty" bulsa ng naghihirap ng taong bayan?

tama ang sagot ng Bayan. ang issue ay hindi sa kailangang ipataas ang tax kundi SOBRA na ANG VAT LEAKAGE na nagaganap, at pilit ng papet ng gobyerno nating sumunod sa mga utos ng self-serving IMF (International Monetary FUnd). SObra na to!! hindi pa nga naibigay ng gobyerno ang matagal nang hinihinging P125 wage increase ng mga manggagawang pilipino.... bibigatan pa ang mga "burdens" nila sa pamamagitan ng VAT.... obvious di na tama yan..... AT walang mangyayari kung taong bayan TATAHIMIK NA LAMANG???? ano? magpapa-uto lang ba tayo? no!!!!!

umaksyon tayo mga tabulogs! i dunno, perhaps lets start a signature campaign... organize our selves.... gumawa ng bloggers night sa mga syudad natin solely to express our disgust for VAT. o i-barrage nating ng letters ang mga opisyal natin at muling ipaalala sa kanila na tayo ang dapat pagserbahan nila di yung mga capitalista o sarili nila..

ano say niyo? ayos ba? gagawa ako ng signature campaign o magpapagawa ako... sisign ba kayo?
sana naman! magkaisa tayo. :)
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 09:49 AM
uyon sab ko sa imong sugyot bok... cge magsugod jud dayonta ug lihok para mabatukan na2 ang di makataronganong pagsaka sa VAT!!!

scooby (guest)

Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 07:02 PM
visayan ba yan o ilonnga?
Comment posted on February 10th, 2005 at 01:29 AM
bisaya... :)
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 04:36 PM
naa naman na sa BM or ANB... mangutana nlang mi kng unsa na... ;-) wala pa info nadawat.

scooby (guest)

Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 07:01 PM
ano ibig sabihin non?
Comment posted on February 4th, 2005 at 03:33 PM
aba... signature campaign ok yan ah!!!... hahaha.. isa kang malaking TAMA master yanzy... sobra na talaga ang VAT leakage na nagaganap... ~bow~ bakit ba blue ang bg...??? nasira ba site ko? hahaha.. ;-)
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 01:46 AM
nagulat naman ako sa tanong.'kala ko joke ;-) anyhoo, i'm against it. VAT increase pa ba?!? kawawa na ang mga pinoy. mapupunta lang sa bulsa ng mga politiko 'yun. sorry, i'm a cynic about the government already. :indiferent:

scooby (guest)

Comment posted on February 8th, 2005 at 07:00 PM
hindi naman siguro siya malaking joke diba? i think mas maganda pag socially oriented tau mga people ;-)
Comment posted on February 5th, 2005 at 04:44 PM
its not a joke actually... haha...critical bout the governent... YUP... its a no no( tax increase)... basahin mo nalng sa itaas ang ibang reason ko... ;-)


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